Fram actually makes the OEM Honda filters. The OEM filter is exactly the same as the Fram Tough Guard, just painted differently. The Fram Ultra is genuinely an awesome filter.
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The Genesis OE filter is $75!! The Fram Fresh Breeze filter is $25 or less; it combines activated charcoal with baking soda to reduce HVAC odor. I've used them in all my vehicles since Fram introduced the Fresh Breeze filter line and found them remarkably effective.
I always change my own engine air filter, cabin filter, and until recently the oil and filter (I'm also partial to Fram). The cabin filter is sooooo much easier to change that on my first Honda - 1989 Accord.
We ran only Fram (PH-8A) on our 1971 Ford LTD until the 1990s when we sold the car with 230K miles on it, and it had just started a light main crank bearing knock.
Ok... so as a DIY mechanic, how tight am I SUPPOSED to tighten oil filters? The box says 1 turn after gasket contact, so that's what I do. It gets pretty tight by the end of a full turn, but I'm still able to do it with my hand (so long as it has one of those rubber grip coated bottoms, like the Fram Tough-Guard). I never have to use a wrench to get it to that point, but it takes about all my hand grip strength to do so. Taking them off is usually requiring a strap wrench, and sometimes it dents/crushes the casing.
I agree with the 20W50 and good filter stay away from Fram, Bosch and Generic or Store Branded filters as they will give you the blinky oil light at idle controlled by the Canned Sensor on the right side of the head as you look at the engine.
Ends up the Fram 9584 does NOT have the correct size holes. Both are the same and smaller diameter. It will NOT fit over the base without ripping. However, the Fram 9584XL does.
I don't know i don't use fram on my personal veh , I see what they do on my work truck cave in hard to get off and air filter sucks in to the airbox and cause the check air filter to come on the dash so I call them cheap man's filters .
After having a fram cabin air filter in my dad's frontier reduce the airflow out of the vents by a good 15%-20% you guessed it... dealership
I do tend to be picky about filters though. I like Wix, OEM AC Delco, and Mobil 1. I will avoid Fram like the plague.
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