Moved on from the run flats to Vredestein Quatrac Pro+. No run flats, no bubbles, and a SIGNIFICANT improvement in ride and noise. Seriously, switch away from these tires and you will only regret not doing it sooner
I like my cooper discoverer at3 4s a lot.
I have those coopers on the front of my jeep xj for a few years now. They are great.
Damn good tires on Ranger 4 wheel drive.
Between the two, Cooper is a well known brand that I've seen on every tire website and in every tire shop I've visited. Go with the Coopers, they're tried and tested and you can at least know they won't randomly blow out or have dangerously low grip.
I used to have that on my F150 and I fell in love with them. I didn't feel water on the road and they were good in mud and gravel. They were also fairly quiet. I love the fact that they're rated for winter use, so in Quebec where I'm from, I don't have to worry about a late tire change, but I would still not use them as a regular winter tire because they absolutely suck on ice. They're okay in snow.
These days I prefer the Cooper Discoverer Enduramax. Sturdier construction for rough roads, better in rain and snow in my experience, and bit nicer ride. They’re stiff enough for good handling but still absorb bumps well. At first they were a bit noisy on rougher surfaced roads, but certainty not obnoxiously so. Seemed to get quieter after some wear. Fuel economy stayed the same as the OEM tires but much better traction.
I just put 4 255/45R19's Cooper pro controls on my 2015 ford taurus limited. I live in Wisconsin and it's winter so I got to test them in the snow. Not bad for all seasons. I've driven with Bridgestone Blizzak winter tires and they're for sure not at that level but good enough grip, I felt confident ish in deep snow.
Great feeling tires for sure, have them on my C7.5 S6, only issue I have with the tires are the side walls get weathered after a year, that’s personally the issue that I am having, and only tire i received is poorly balanced. Otherwise the tires feel great all around.
My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.
Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.
We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.
However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.
My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."
Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.
After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.
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