I ran the same pads at a track day at Sebring (Long Course). They held up very well as did the stock audi brakes in my opinion. The last car I tracked was a WRX with stock brakes and Carbotech pads and it was total disaster. I was nevous I would have similar problems with the stock brakes and heavy A3 but they performed very well. Fade: 9 Virtually no fade at this track Wear: 8 Went through about half the pads with around 3 hours of hotlaps Dust: 6 More than stock. Get it off quickly after the track day as it becomes difficult to get off. This is pretty normal though. Noise: 5 Sqeeky on track which is to be expected. They will get squeaky on the street if the brake dust starts to build up. Just wash the car every other week and you are fine. They was no major rotor wear even after street use. I also ran Carbotech Bobcats on the rear but can't really say how much difference they made.
I just got back from a 3 day Audi Driver's School at the Autobahn Country Club in Joliet, IL., and just had to post a testimonial on how well the brake pads performed. The Carbotech XP8's far exceeded my expectations in every way. They are somewhat expensive, but worth every penny. If you are one of those people (like me) who is not ready to drop 2+ Grand on a big brake kit, the Carbotech's are the next best thing. My first touch on the brakes almost sent me into the steering wheel. Wow, what a difference. Once the pads were broke in and bedded, they were a little more "user friendly." There is only a very slight occasional squeek on the city streets when you brake. The infrequent noise is a necessary compromise for the braking ability these pads provide on the track. I do way to many events over the summer to swap pads every event, so these were a good dual-purpose pad for me. If you do any lapping days- try these pads. Drive fast, have fun and be safe!
I run Bobcats front and rear on my car on the street and on the track. I think they're great, low dusting and quiet. They bite well on the street and amazed me on the track at Thunderhill with their fade resistance. I was on them all session long and they never gave out.
I got my brakes yesterday, they are freakin awesome, finish looks really good. i am going to put them on this weekend
The top of the scale on streetable pads are full racing compounds that work good enough cold to be usable on the street. Ferodo DS-2500 and Carbotech Panther Plus are in this category. They can be very dusty and are often noisey, but they have the most grip you can get on the street.
I do like the wilwoods on my car, stops good, lots of choice in brake pads.
i had them on my mk3 jetta and there was a huge stopping difference without locking them up. a very good investment , initially they came with hawk pads they were too noisy and i switched to ebc pads and i loved the brakes quiet and stopping distance was probably reduced by 1/3
I had the wilwood 4piston kit w/11.3" rotors and stainless lines and the biggest difference I noticed was: Firmer pedal (stainless lines) Less fade when hot Better handling due to unsprung weight ABS stayed off a little better BUT: I couldn't use them w/factory wheels Had to take them off and put them on when I changed my summer rims Overall, Save your cash and get some good ss lines, pads and xdrilled rotors. Are you really going THAT fast that you need all that clamping power? Furthermore, your tires (type, tread, condition, etc.) and the alignment have almost as much to do with effective braking as fancy calipers, expensive fluid and the like.
Our stock brakes on our 88 16v gti (ita class) used bone stock rotors, ford high performance brake fluid, performance friction pads ( no longer available, but hawk blues worked almost as well ) and a nice cheap duct to the center of the hub to force air into the center of the rotor. We went several seasons with the same rotors and shuffled pads for long life. We also made a spacer out of aluminum to go between the pad and the caliper to help dissipate heat better as well. In 2000 we set 7 track lap records so the car isn't slow. Our motto for racing isn't how much you spend, but what you spend it on. good luck! dave...... p.s. for what it's worth, we sold the ita car and are building a g-production rabbit using wilwoods because they are legal in the class and we got into them for a good price. The key in that purchase was weight.
the Wilwoods are quite light. they don't have much pad contact area though. the big advantage with the Stoptechs would be the cooling and contact area.
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