We have these (T+H) on the Rav4. No complaints. Quiet, good in the rain, comfy, inexpensive when on sale. Tread life isn't 80k or whatever the warranty number is, not by a long shot, but what tire ever hits that? They'll need replacing around 55-60k, at which point I'll get the Defender 2.
I have a set on the Audi. I run them all year round. They are great IMHO. Michelin CrossClimate 2
I've used both tires. The Pirellis came oem on my Audi. I swapped them fir the Michelins. Ride comfort and handling made the Michelins the clear cut winner.
On a side note my wife’s Lincoln SUV runs Michelin defender’s and they are a great on-road tire!
Have had both. Ok my second set of Defenders now. If you want actual on road performance and tread life get the Defenders. In my experience the Michelins are much better in rain.
For your application, defenders all the way.
Defenders, best all-around tire hands down.
Defenders. From a 150 in the snowy Northeast.
I have the PS4S. Under heavy braking, my front would understeer slightly do to traction and I would fishtail coming out of the corners. As long as I was smooth and embraced a little loss of traction, I was fine. Overall, the tires did well on my car.
Made a customer cry because she couldn't afford tires for her car. University student, leased a Honda Civic but got the Sport Package which included 18" wheels with 235/45R18, and it came with a set of winter wheels/tires with Michelines.
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