my wife followed me home and she just plowed through with her Nokian Hakkapelliitta R3's, the new ones, much better...maybe I'll get those next year.
I haven't tried the Toyo Celsius, but we did have the other all-weather tire, the Nokian WRG3, on our family minivan. We went with those over the Celsius per the recommendation of the tire shop I bought from. The manager there thought the Nokians offered better winter snow/ice grip over the Celsius, while the Celsius was better in dry conditions.
I was low on cash so I went with Nokian zLine a/s ones. They are a lot better then I expected for the price but they are great so far.
I like Michelin Latitude Tours until moving north. I've had Nokian WR-G3s for the past 5-6 years. Current set at 25k and ready to be replaced (at the 4, they come with 8,6,4 marked in the tread). They are an all-weather plus tire that is v-rated and super great in the winter and keeps me from having to swap from winter to summer tires. They aren't as smooth as the Michelins but, they aren't bad either.
Freaking love my 225/50/17 Nokia’s WRG3 outstanding snow and ice performance and never have to worry about random 70 degree weather temps we get in mass during winter.
205-65-16 run fine on our Alltrack, no complaints and rides great even with studded Hakka 8.
Buy the Nokian! The best snow/ice/slush tire made! In Maine it\u2019s Nokian, Blizzak and then the X ice in that order. I run the R9 studded on both my dubs in 17\u201d. Work awesome
I used to use the G series winter tires but have switched to their newer Hakkapiillita tires and they're awesome.
I've been using the WR G3's the past few winters and have also been pretty happy with them. This has been mainly suburban Boston driving. That said in the late winter early in 2018 had once instance where I had to drive up a pretty steep snow-covered dirt road with them. I thought as I started up there was maybe a 10% change I would make it up the hill.......powered up with no problem. YMMV
I'm getting the Nokian WRG4 in 235/45 17 mounted on my Neuspeed 17s for winter duty. All four wheels spinning yesterday on Sumer tires at 30-40mph wasn't confidence inspiring.
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