Tires Nokia or Vredestein

I just put the studded Hakka 10 on my wife’s new Durango and will never go back. I have the R5 on my car and it’s no comparison to the studded 10s.

Nokian Hakkapeliitta's are the best of the best. You can get both studded and non-studded. You likely don't need the studs, but they certainly help on early morning descents down i70 into Silverthorne.

Long term update for anyone considering the Nokian One. Had them installed in 2022, put 40,000km on the vehicle since, 10k of that was probably on my winter tires. I just passed the 60% indicator. I figure they will last 60,000km.

I have been running the Wintrac Pro since Nov '23 they haven't come off yet! This tire has been hands down the very best all season tire I have ever run. Excellent rain and dry performance and very good snow performance. They don't hook up as well as Hakka's because they are a harder compound and they do not break as well on snow as Hakka's. But they are exceptional in more areas. I have driven all summer on them and it is almost winter here now in the PNW mountains of Oregon. I live directly north of Mt.Hoodamd I regularly drive the WRX north to the Seattle area randomly all year including winter. Mostly travel the east route or what locals call the 'backside' route which is much colder and see's more snow. I come west on 90 through the Snoqualmie Valley and these tires inspire confidence. I just measured them at 7/32" of tread left and I have put 25k mi on them in one year. I do feel like they have gotten a bit harder than when new but they still perform so I will run them down to 5/32" and purchase a new set.

I’ve been running the pros the past 2 years on the wrx. Going to put them on my wife’s cx90. And I’ll put the pro+ when I need to replace them on the wrx. I won’t put another tire on for a while. Absolutely in love with them. Amazing rain traction and a nice soft sidewall but not winter tire soft, great if you have coilovers. I run a high rate for autocross and these tires have been so comfy. Did great with snow as well. It’s not invincible like dedicated winters but you will never have issues unless you decide to hoon in state of emergency type of weather.

Vredestein Quatrac (V shaped all seasons) are fantastic tires. The best, in my opinion, in wet conditions. I love those tires, they run perfectly. I highly recommend them. ????????????

I love how the Vredestein Quatrac (the V shaped all seasons) tires behave. They are fantastic tires and the best in my opinion for wet conditions. I would definitely recommend them anytime. They are great tires.

I use them on my C7 S6 in winter. Also had a set of winters for my B7 S4 cab.

Love them.

I've bought a set of quatrac 5 vredesteins for my X5 ... 2.5/3 years ago ... about halfway worn after 25k miles.

To be honest, in the dry ... easy to reach and surpass the adhesion limit at moderate speeds, feel is mehh at best. Quiet tires, decent tread life, comfortable but no where near the advertised levels. Currently during the winter ... moderate snow ... nothing spectacular, slightly better grip off the line than the duellers, fairly predictable, but a bit short on lateral grip ... so if you are braking and trying to cut a corner on snow ... better be awake so you don't end up in a ditch nose first.

My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.

Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.

We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.

However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.

My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."

Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.

After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.