I went from Q3+ to Q4 for similar reasons. Instantly a success.
Continental 860+ I think has been the best reviewed winter tire in EU for several years now. I drive Dunlop, because the Continentals were out of stock.
I now have ZIIIs on my Miata and have been enjoying them. I’m not super picky and they were cheap but the grip is astonishing. Road noise is probably average.
I just had a set of Direzza ZIIIs on my AP2, and switched them out about three weeks ago. I’d put the overall grip from the ZIII slightly higher than as the Falken Azenis RT615 K+ I ran before I switched to the Dunlop. They talk more than the Falkens at the limit, meaning if you like to kick the tail out, they scream like a banshee. They’re a responsive tire, with a stiff sidewall and chunky tread blocks. The tire has a very solid feeling, and doesn’t feel like it deforms a whole lot as you load it up.
I have had the Trailmax Missions on my R1250GS for over a year and 8k miles. Really great adventure tire, decent offroad, great on the road and lasts.
You will never get the q4 hot enough and will be more prone to low side, the exact thing you are trying to avoid.
I loved the Sottozero 3's on my previous STi. I got a set of Dunlop WinterMaxx on my R now (got them on sale from TireRack when I got winter wheels) and while they're fine and even good in the snow, they are horrific on wet pavement.
I was hoping my '22 SE wouldn't come with the Dunlops. It did. On TireRack, they're listed as the worst tire in their category. Spent about 5 minutes on each tire with a screw driver prying all the pebbles out of the Dunlop treads. Just going to use them, and replace with a superior option further down the road.
they’re loud. I only put on 5k miles on them but have a second set that I wrapped with Bridgestones RE71RS on 235/40/18.
I have the same tires on my 22 SE and they suck lol. Mine has the same issue with little pebbles stuck in the treads.
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