Brake caliper Brembo or Girling
Nice! I put a set of gold Brembos on my 2017 WRX. You're right, they're overkill, but they sure look nice and work great.
If your tires are on par with your brakes however... 6 piston Brembos are the greatest upgrade ever. I had a set on a mustang, and an S4 and I have to say it is not just that last level of locking up that they are good for. They’re smooth, they’re progressive.
Well worth the money considering the increase in braking performance. It stops HARD now. A significant improvement over OEM. All things considered, I am SO pleased with the performance. I am glad I decided to do the 4-piston 1LE setup instead of the 6-piston 17Z or 18Z calipers. While it’s not really a direct ‘bolt on’ solution, the small amount of work that’s required to get everything to fit is worth the time invested.
Running Girling 60 dual pot calipers and carriers out of a 1988 Audi 5000 Quattro with 11" rotors from a Corrado G60 up front, a drum-to-disc swap out back with the proper proportioning valve, and a master cylinder out of a 1990 Audi 200 (non-abs). Braided lines feed all 4. Possibly most importantly, all that is run using RBF600. I have run all sorts of different pads over the last couple years but I have found that the car really isn't heavy enough or fast enough to need anything more than OEM type pads (even at track days). I did have to get bigger wheels to fit the front brakes so I found some nice light RPF1 knock-offs. The overall setup feels much firmer than stock and is very easy to live with. The only other nit-pick I can think of is that not all the pads I have tried come with shims (sheets of soft metal that goes between the pad and caliper piston) which leads to extra noise and can be unpleasant. I have found that most of the time, you can just move the shims from the old pad to the new and it works 99%.
Krazee said: Option 7: ECS Tuning/Porsche Boxster Calipers *Plus: -Larger, 4-piston Porsche Boxster Brembo Calipers. -Bolts on to 12.3\u201d Audi TT rotors -Larger pistons, larger pads means increased clamping force and swept area.
The Panigale V4 is fitted exclusively with brand new Brembo Stylema monobloc calipers \u2013 the latest evolution of the MO one-finger endorsed M50. Machined from a single piece of alloy, these have lighter-weight areas in the mounting bushings and in the body, which make them visually more compact and give a weight reduction of 70 grams per caliper with no compromise in rigidity. Changes to internal venting improve hydraulic performance for excellent fingertip feel, shorter lever travel and \u201cprompt response.\u201d Each Stylema caliper is packing four 30mm pistons.
Robert has been extremely responsive and clearly knows his stuff
For those of you who either have Girling 60 calipers or are thinking about getting them, this post should save you a crap-ton of time. The research here comes from a months-long ordeal which I’ll lay out for you now … Several years ago, I found a pair of Girling 60 calipers off an Audi 5000 at a salvage yard. I was STOKED to put them on my Corrado project, especially since they were a steal at $42 for BOTH. I had them beautifully shot-blasted and powder coated, which of course required that the pistons and seals be removed. As you’re probably all familiar with, other priorities in life took the place of my Corrado project, and the calipers and pistons sat for years. I recently moved from Los Angeles to Austin, TX, and the pistons are nowhere to be found. I had no idea finding caliper pistons would be such an ordeal. I did some research and found the part # s for a few suppliers, and I’m listing them here for your convenience: Centric 143.33014 This is the rebuild kit with new seals and new dust boots for the pistons. Each one will cover one caliper, so you’ll need to buy one for each. The best place to find these is on eBay, where you can get one for around $10. Don't buy the OEM one from germanautoparts unless you enjoy spending $80 for four rubber rings. Centric 117.33025 This is the disc brake hardware kit with new boots for the slide pins. Also available on eBay in the $10 range. Centric 146.40014 or Frenkit P405301 This is the 40mm piston, around $13. Centric 146.45002 or Frenkit P455301 This is the 45mm piston, around $14. Now, from what I can tell—and at least currently—the pistons are nearly impossible to find by themselves. If you look up the part numbers, you’ll find a handful of online retailers that claim to have them 'in stock', but when you put them in your cart, you’ll get a notice that, oops, they’re not actually in stock. OR, you’ll place the order, everything will process wonderfully, and you’ll enjoy euphoria like you just found the Holy Grail of the Last Supper, only to get a phone call the next day from a sales rep to ‘talk about your order,’ a phone call which will almost certainly end with you getting a refund, because you sure as hell aren’t getting the pistons. I even called Centric directly—but they don’t sell to directly to consumers, only to resellers. Centric gave me the name of their biggest client, XL Parts, which is in Texas. I called XL Parts and they don’t have the pistons in stock either. I asked if they could order the pistons from Centric on my behalf … which they COULD … but it would require me physically walking into a store, filling out a form for a special order, and paying for the pistons (and shipping) in advance. For some reason, they don’t take credit cards over the phone. Since I live 3 hours away from the nearest XL Parts location, this wasn’t exactly convenient. So my next step was the local junkyards … where I came up empty-handed. I even tried a send-us-your-part-request-and-we’ll-get-a-network-of-junkyards-to-find-it-for-you service. Four replies, all telling me they had what I needed … only to have them recant once I spoke to them and explained what I was looking for. In the end, I was saved by luck. A Vortexer had a pair of Gilring 60 calipers for sale, but they had a missing carrier and a torn dust boot, so he was willing to sell for a fraction of a full Girling 60 setup. But without something like that, I fear the only places you can get replacement pistons is by getting lucky in a junkyard, or by buying a whole new set of calipers. Or, you can always fly to Houston or Dallas and visit an XL Parts location. Hope this helps some of you. EDIT: For those of you who are being asked "What car is this for?", know that the Girling 60 calipers were used on the following: 1986-1988 Audi 5000 1992-1994 Audi S4 1995-1997 Audi S6 1990-1994 Audi V8 Quattro
I had them on my B3, those things are a boat anchor each... For the amount of stopping power they add, they also add a ton of unsprung weight.
G60's didnt clear the 15's i bought. Went with smaller girling 54's with 11" discs instead cause I liked the wheels to much. Ive heard the g60's are heavy pos anyways.
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