our options in streetable tires that i know of are: 205 60 14 yokohama es 100
I have the Pirelli Nero M&S. A very good tire in all regards. Quiet, smooth, decent ride, wet and dry capabilities, and they last a long time compared to MXes or Azenis.
I ran Yokohama A008's back then, since it was only a sunny day/auto-X car.
I'll admit that the conjecture about the P Zero Neros had me a little bit worried, too. The only thing different is that I also had mine siped by the installer. We had our first real snow last week (4-6" of heavy, slushy stuff) and the Pirelli's were great! Lots of traction. Very controllable. I'm sure that dedicated snow tires would be better, but I'm very pleased so far.
Glad to hear it!!!! My wife forced me to stop being cheap. She insisted that I get the set of P Zero Nero M+S early last month as a precaution since the F1s are supposed to turn to stone in cold temperatures. I'm glad I listed to her. We recently had a bit of a cold snap that would have taxed the F1s. Now that I know you've had good performance in the snow, I'm even happier and I know now that I should be good for the winter (Maryland - Mid-Atlantic Winter that is).
I too was pleasantly surprised with their performance. We've received 3"-4" in the last couple day here in Utah, and I've gone out searching for bad roads and have no problems at all with anything that I've come up against. Whether the ESP is on or off you just point it and go. I find them completely acceptable for an all-season tire, and will gladly buy them again when I need new tires.
Finally I can provide some feedback for anyone wondering how these tires perform in the winter snow and ice. Honestly, after reading a number of posts where people were critical of tires of this type I expected handling just a bit better than an ice-skate... (IMHO) these tires did a whole lot better than I expected. I had a number of unplowed side streets with 4-6" of snow depth to navigate in the early morning as well as a combination of slush and iced over roads and I had no problems to speak of.
i have these mounted on my van with roughly 15K miles on them. They are very tough little tires but be warned, they ride like a low-profile tire, so you will feel every crack in the road, especially when inflated to 45-65PSI (they are rated up to 65psi cold, load range-D) the upside is when they are fully inflated, they make your van very stable in sidewinds and going around corners, switching lanes etc....
My all-season tires however, and worn for the path. They are still drivable, but I will definitely be replacing tires before winter.
Now for tire noise, my Pirelli P7000 Supersports were quiet as could be. I read some posts about noise on them before buying them and thought "noise, what noise???" Well, after about 10k miles on them, they sound like monster truck tires roaring down the road.
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