FWIW I'm just now replacing my oem toyo tires with 33k miles on the odometer.
Atualmente no meu Kia só uso Toyo, são bons e tem uma particularidade, são silenciosos no rolamento, coisa que se nota bem neste ED SW.
I tried Kleber Quadraxer 3rd gen for 2 years. The tires were perfect on hot road in Toscana in july and on ice/snow covered road in the slowenien alps in january after 30.000 km. I was fully surprised.
Toyo tires are not flimsy. Many amateur race track drivers run them on their modified/performance cars. It's a premium performance brand, actually. I ran over a dozen sets to Toyo tires on my BMW and Audi cars for many years when I was doing track days.
I went from a Toyo Celsius in the stock 225/60/R17 to these bad boys in 225/65/R17. Gained an inch of tire and they really fill the wheel wells now. No rubbing and a very smooth and quiet ride
I bought Kleber Dynaxer 5 SUV (225/55R18) based on suggestions here for quiet tire and am very happy with my purchase.
I just put them on in January and so far I like them a lot. We got less snow than normal, but they were very good in what snow we got. At first they were noisy on my Tacoma Pickup, I have E rated tires, but after a couple thousand miles they got quiet.
They are OK... Toyo makes a good tire, but as far as all-weather tires go the Celsius 2 are just average and similar in performance to most mid-grade all-weathers like Falken, Nexen, or General...
those toyos are widely regarded as poor tires, they ride quiet when they're new but very shortly they get loud and the grip is pretty bad and any sort of inclement weather even just rain.
It was a terrible experience on stock suspension: extremely stiff, sluggish from standstill, and my mpg took a drastic hit. On one tank I went from averaging about 16.8 mpg to 13.5.
I ended up getting them switched out for the C load tires (255/75r17) and had a MUCH better experience. They drive nearly identical to the stock tires , mpg is back to low 16, and the ride has softened up.
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