Well, I was talking abou OEM rotors with DS2500 pads, not OEM pads. I replaced the stock pads after 30k wich was reasonable but DS2500s have much higher friction coeff.
Actually pretty good. Smooth step in, but really bite if pressed hard. I do have much more pedal now with the rears swapped out. I was suprised how thin they were!
I upgraded, I got the Hawk EPS pads from Tire Rack, (see the top photo). I have the Hawk EPS front and rear.
Got about 6k miles on them and they are really great pads. Only thing is they are dusty, but I can live with that. It is scary when i drive cars with the stock pads now.
Well have some miles on these now and one track day in the rain, so did not heat them up that much. I really like them. Have good bite in the cold. Gets better as they heat up some. Noise is very minimal. were a bit noisy on the ride home from the track, but has been quiet since. They do dust quite a bit, but i can deal with that. Rotor wear is minimal. I think these are awesome for what I use them for.
They are definitely getting better as the go though some heat cycling. Very happy with them now.
I bedded them in good, and there is not a big change in bite. They definitely work well when they have some heat in them. Happy with them. No noise as of yet.
I like these pads, but they have less bite than the HP+ pads. Those would really grab. These make no noise as of yet. Just the grab feels similar to a stock pad???? I like them and am happy so far.
I have tried the following pads (and still have them on my shelf): Stock Pagids, Mintex Reds, HPS, HP+, Ferodo DS2500 (fronts), Carbotech P+ (fronts). I have used each for several thousand miles after breaking each in per manufacturers' recommendations. And yes, this means I was changing brake pads at least every few weeks. Rotors too, I also have 3 sets of front rotors. This was all in pursuit of GREAT braking at autocross, then on track. I don't know if the HPS are the best street pad, but they're decent. That's how I meant it. Call them a 7 of 10. They aren't what I want in a street pad, but for someone that never does autocross or track days - they're good. Personally I thought they were very similar to the stock 20AE Pagids. (I originally went from Stock to Mintex to HPS to Stock and back to HPS again, btw) The HPS dusted as much as the stockers and had similar bite. I didn't test their fade resistance. With a stock braking system, I think HP+ and DS2500 are both IFFY track pads. The HP+ are great as long as you don't overheat them and replace them every 2 or 3 events.
I didnt like the HAWKS AT ALL.
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