What Wal said. I replaced pads with Hawk HPS which is a compromise street/performance pad so the feel of the brakes was changed. 1. Brake Fade reduced 2. Initial pad bite not as effective as stock pads - once warmed up OK, thats a trade off with ... 3. Reduced dust easier to manage 4. More pedal pressure required, this was due to larger rotor and the caliper sitting further out. This showed up a limitation of the rubber caliper bushings used in the stock calipers. Once replaced with metal bushings (Tyrolsports bushings) brake feel significantly improved. At the end of the day if you are talking about stopping in a shorter distance then many factors come into play including pads, tyres, weather etc. Assuming all the other factors are addressed then the A8 upgrade will give you some extra breaking \"power\" but the significant improvement is in reduced fade or repitition of that stopping power. The trade off is that the more fade resistant or race application the pads are then the less initial performance until optimal pad temp is reached. The HPS are a good compromise and I know that if I plant the foot the car will halt with this upgrade better than stock.
It will brake much better! Get the hawks over the Mintex Red Box.
I picked up a pair of Hawk performance pads, the street ones, not the real aggressive ones. Got them from Tire Rack for about $90. They are the best tho. Great for the money.
the HP+ is way dustier than most so this builds up quicker and squeels more. it's a pretty damn grippy pad that requires very little heat to work.....good thing when used on the street.
Actually the +'s are a street pad and "occasional" track useage. They lean more to the track side of things like you said. And yes they do squeal a lot and are quite dusty in my experience.
Go with the Hawk HPS. Fantastic pads. I love them.
Hawk Blue 9012 - Designed to be used on the track only
the 'normal' Wilwood/RPI kit has 11" rotors with the 4pot caliper. my stock speedlines D.E.'s fit perfect. it's as close as one could get though. it's sounds funny to downsize in rotor size, but the big advantage to the 11.3's wasn't rotor size but pad sweep. that's where it had a 33% advantage to the O.E.M. 11.0's. but i went from the 11.3 with steel lines and Red box pads to the wilwood 11.0 with Hawk pads and have to say it's totally incredible. they do have a brand new 13.0" kit with the same caliper and an aluminum hatted rotor that still weighs 15lbs less than stock. might have to upgrade to that when my current rotors are toast. don't know if i want to rid myself of my 15's though. it's nice to be able to use both.
You would get far, far better brake performance from Hawk HPS or EBC Green pads on flat, OEM replacement rotors. Those decorative rotors might look kind of cool, but they won't stop you any shorter, and could extend your stopping distance some. (Actually, to someone who understands the engineering of brake systems, rotors like those look really stupid.) And Mintex Red Box is a decent OEM quality pad with low dust, but they aren't very fade resistant and they aren't very grippy. They are comparable to stock or parts store house brand pads in performance, just less dusty.
my HPS are now cooked after my track events. They're also getting noticeably more dusty, too. I'm going to be getting better pads before my next event. My last trip to Limerock, they were fading bad after only a lap. But, they held up for a long time before that.
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