I have the WinterSport M3 205/55R16 on steelies on my 20th. This is my second winter on them. Great Tire.
I installed a set of Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3's. This is a quick review of my thoughts on the handling and performance, so far. Wet Grip: Amazingly capable. Dry Grip: The tires grip reasonably well. Snow Grip: Amazing. Truly amazing. Ice Grip: grip was still very good. Low-speed Handling: I am fairly impressed with how these handle. High-speed Stability: Well, these are winter tires and feel well-suited to a sedan driven in a commuting style. Noise: None, so far. Comfort: Still, these are quite comfortable.
I run 245/40/17 Michelin Pilot sport cups on 17x8" Et 35 rims with stock springs -> no rubbing
Just installed new tires on our Phaeton. The old Michelins were actually dangerous. For reference, I'm not talking about driving through giant puddles at high speed; every time this happened we were on the freeway. So -- I researched everything out there and settled on the Michelin® Pilot Sport A/S (255/45R18). All I can say is... WOW!!! What a huge difference in performance; the car turns in much better and grips like crazy. These tires should be standard on this car! This tire seems to improve on the factory tire in every area of performance, and is supposed to be superb in the wet as well.
Luckily Bridgestone has a 30-day test drive program where if you're not happy with the tires for any reason, you can return them for a full refund. I walked into Curry's, told them I didn't like Potenzas and walked out with a set of Michelin MXV$ Plus tires.
Don't know about the Toyos but the PS2'S are great. They handle excellent in the rain and in the dry. High Speed stability is excellent as well.
based on my own prior experience.. skinnier tires are better in snow/slush.... so I bought a set of 205 50 17s myself... Dunlop Winter M2s for me!
Yes, they'll start talking when you reach their limits of adhesion. Not as loudly as the F1s, but at pretty much the same point (just as they're starting to let go--which seems to be fairly gradual and predictable).
I run Michelin XLT 'all-seaon mud and snow' tires, which are great in rain and ok in light snow, but frankly in real winter-y conditions are not good enough.
I heard they sucked from the tire guy, so he sold me sp8k's...which I LOVE.
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