Just installed new tires on our Phaeton. The old Michelins were actually dangerous. For reference, I'm not talking about driving through giant puddles at high speed; every time this happened we were on the freeway. So -- I researched everything out there and settled on the Michelin® Pilot Sport A/S (255/45R18). All I can say is... WOW!!! What a huge difference in performance; the car turns in much better and grips like crazy. These tires should be standard on this car! This tire seems to improve on the factory tire in every area of performance, and is supposed to be superb in the wet as well.
Luckily Bridgestone has a 30-day test drive program where if you're not happy with the tires for any reason, you can return them for a full refund. I walked into Curry's, told them I didn't like Potenzas and walked out with a set of Michelin MXV$ Plus tires.
Don't know about the Toyos but the PS2'S are great. They handle excellent in the rain and in the dry. High Speed stability is excellent as well.
Yes, they'll start talking when you reach their limits of adhesion. Not as loudly as the F1s, but at pretty much the same point (just as they're starting to let go--which seems to be fairly gradual and predictable).
I just ran a track weekend at Pocono Raceway with my PS2's, 245/35/19. They performed extremely well for a street tire.
The PS2s have a much stiffer sidewall than the stock Goodyear F1s, which is exactly what I was looking for. No noticeable tread squirm while cornering and sharper steering response as a result. Of course, this also means they provide a less cushy ride than the F1s--the surface of the road is communicated much more readily to the cabin. The PS2s also produce quite a bit more road noise. Driving on grooved/textured highways was much noisier than the F1s. The tread pattern also produces a tendency for these tires to follow grooves in the road, which was never an issue with the F1s. In terms of overall grip, the PS2s are outstanding. I took several corners at speed in the Ozark Mountains, and the PS2s showed no signs of letting go. Very confidence-inspiring. They're easily as grippy as the F1s, and actually felt as though they were superior in this regard. Wet weather performance was easily as good as the F1s, much to my pleasant surprise. I drove in conditions that varied from a light sprinkle to a heavy downpour, and the PS2s continued to perform as solidly as they did in the dry. I plowed through several puddles with not even a hint of hydroplaning.
i run between 32-30 psi in minw with no problems at all. i am showing normal treadwear with that setting. The ride is good there as well, well, as good of a ride as you can get out of goodyears.
I chose the Goodyears.. to be honest, mostly because I thought they were just damn cool looking I've never ridden on the Potenza's, so I can't give you a side-by-side comparison.. but the Eagles are excellent.. very quiet (especially compared to the OEM Pirelli's which howled like banshees above 50 mph).. dry pavement grip is as good as I've ever experienced (and yes, I get out on the track once in a while.. and drive extremely aggressively everywhere else, as well).. wet weather grip is phenomenal.. they will break lose in extreme situations (sharp turns or in standing water that is fairly deep and more than a couple car lengths.. but that's going to happen with any performance tire) the tires don't give back as much feedback as my old Pirelli's, which got progressively louder as the g-forces increased.. but they will give you ample warning and they break away very predictably.. and better yet, they'll get back on track pretty easily if you ease up.. there is a touch of understeer in the handling, but not nearly as much as the OEM tires.. they're a bit more neutral when they are warm, tho another nice thing is that they don't tug at every uneven surface in the pavement, which my Pirelli's did.. also, the OEM Pirelli's didn't give my rims any sidewall protection, thus nearly every wheel now has curb scratches.. the Eagle's have a ridge that extends farther than the rest of the sidewall to give you a little security.. I have no idea if the Potenza's are the same I'm very happy with my decision to buy the Eagle's.. it would be nice to be able to do a back-to-back test drive with both brands, but how many of us have ever been able to do that? and yeah, I still think they look good
I run Michelin XLT 'all-seaon mud and snow' tires, which are great in rain and ok in light snow, but frankly in real winter-y conditions are not good enough.
Dude. Ran the michellins, ran the Kumhos and twice have run Dunlop SP5000s .. run the dunlops. They're sub $100/tire, grip much better than the kumhos both wet and dry, take longer to wear and are just all around a better tire. Far better than the michellins, for a fraction of the price.
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