I've seen similar sentiments online about Pirelli that didn't really match my experience. Most of my favorite driving sets of tires have been Pirellis. Not necessarily best by the numbers, but by how they felt on some of my more communicative cars on the road.
Toyo M55 has been the best tire I have used for heavy payloads. I also get them sipped for year round use. The tire does not perform excellent at anything but decent at everything. Very rugged tire.
Depends on the model. I’ve had some great experience with Pirelli Scorpions and the P Zero. Usually not my brand of choice but if nothing is available and they are I’ll run them. Definitely more of a Michelin PS2/C type for my sport cars though. I’m about 3k miles into a set of PZero 21” on my LR Discovery. They handle the weight of the vehicle and road conditions really nice, so far have no complaints.
Honestly have no idea why anyone hates them but after giving up my OEM Yokohama Geolander for Michelin Defender 2's that had a weird vibration on the highway that the tire shop insisted wasn't from a bad balance, I returned those and got the Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3's. They ride MUCH better than the Defenders, which were one of the highest rated tires everywhere, and there is no weird vibe on the highway. My 22 CX-5 never rode so good.
I’ve had Scorpions on my car for ten years by now. When I had Michelins and Bridgestones they did not drive nearly as smoothly
I have nothing but good things to say about the Pirelli tires that I've bought. In fact, two weeks ago, I bought a set of Pirelli Cinturato WeatherActives to replace my Continental run flats and they're great (quieter, smoother ride, etc).
Idk I have bin using pirrelli p7's on my Subaru impreza for years now. Work well imo. Stick like glue even in the wet.
R888r actually heat okay. They're just ancient and overpriced. Their wear life is horrible. They're noisy.
My patience ran out around 3000 miles. I hated how vague they felt in the rain, and I was not interested in waiting until winter to see how much worse they’d be on snow and ice.
Tires (Toyo) are HORRIBLE and noisey garbage.
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