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I agree with the 20W50 and good filter stay away from Fram, Bosch and Generic or Store Branded filters as they will give you the blinky oil light at idle controlled by the Canned Sensor on the right side of the head as you look at the engine.
Honda filters are just relabeled FRAM Orange can filters. I step it up and use FRAM Ultra synthetic. Same particulate filtration but better quality and synthetic media.
Personally I use Fram's Ultra as it's shown to filter great and allow flow great for the price point from tests performed.
Ends up the Fram 9584 does NOT have the correct size holes. Both are the same and smaller diameter. It will NOT fit over the base without ripping. However, the Fram 9584XL does.
The Lucas product and Royal Purple (or any QUAILTY oil) changed at 3k intervals are great, just make sure not to cheap out on the filter, Fram Titanium or Bosch are your best value in a 20 micron level filter, with the Fram being the higher flow rate of the two.
Have used FRAM oil filters for 45 years, GMC trucks, VW, Honda, multiple Nissan trucks and never an issue all engines lasted till crashed or sold.
Also, I would just use Fram ultra synthetic for 5k mile oil changes. It has 99% efficiency at 20 micron, so it’s fine, and its 20k mile rating is obviously more than enough for 5k mile oil changes.
I do tend to be picky about filters though. I like Wix, OEM AC Delco, and Mobil 1. I will avoid Fram like the plague.
No, that's not normal or good.Fram is junk - my mechanic told me a good oil filter would never collapse like that.When it does, it constricts the oil and it's not filtering properly. Go with an OEM filter, or go with Mann.I do oil changes every 15k (as per manufacturer) and I used a Fram once, and it looked like that. Since then, only used Mann or OEM and they look the same when I pulled it out after 15k.Do not cheap out on oil filters.
I’ve been using Fram oil filters since the 90’s. I Used Fram filters on my original owner 2004 Honda Odyssey after warranty period was up for 20 years! That engine had 307,000 miles on it with zero issues when I got rid of it. Trans failed twice before engine did. My 2001 Maxima got 238,000 using Fram filters. That car got sold because of a rear main seal leak and other issues not engine related. I used them in my 71’ Challenger and 87’ turbo T Buick WE4 (granted they never saw more than 300 miles during an oil change). I’ve never had a problem with them.
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